This is a blog I am starting on Word Press about the wonderful world of Cluster B. Cluster B, according to the DSM (Diagnostic Statistical Manual created by the American Psychiatric Association) is one of three groups of “personality disorders.” It consists of Histrionic, Borderline, Narcissistic and Psychopathic. Well, the DSM actually removed the word “Psychopathic” and substituted “Antisocial,” abbreviated to “ASPD.” Whatever.
I recently discovered another index of personality disorders (The International Statistical Classification of Diseases and Related Health Problems published by the World Health Organization of the United Nations). ICD-10. This manual has a code for “Dissocial personality disorder” which includes…
Histrionic Personality Disorder is a separate category in itself. Narcissism is listed under “Other Specific Personality Disorders.” Borderline also has a separate code. Furthermore, the catch-all diagnosis of the DSM, “Personality Disorder: NOS (not otherwise specified)” includes Psychopathy as well as Depressive, Passive-Aggressive, Sadistic, and Self-Defeating.
I am adding some controversy to this discussion. The DSM-5 has come under some criticism that I consider worthy of consideration. The article appears in Psychology Today by Allen J. Frances, M.D., called My Debate with the DSM 5 Chair. Although it is several years old, the DSM-5 has not been updated since the time of that writing. The article points out some disingenuous aspects to the way this important document was created and not peer tested. The gist is the failure to include Psychopathy among the Cluster B “disorders” in defiance of the leading expert on psychopathy, Dr. Robert H. Hare. The result has been that people just go along acting as if psychopathy were in that cluster but called ASPD while that “disorder” is not really defined in the same way. Psychopathy is pervasive while ASPD transitory, varying in accordance with changes in behavior. Since pervasiveness is a characteristic of personality disorders, this change is troublesome. Another article in Psychology Today also takes issue with the authors of the DSM-5. Written by Scott Bonn and called Diagnosing Psychopathy, is pretty negative towards us, calling us “manipulative and dangerous” but has some solid information by Robert Hare. It says, “Approximately one-third of all prison inmates who are considered to be ‘antisocial personality disordered’ meet the criteria of severe psychopathy specified in the fifth edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5).
“For the very first time, the APA recognized psychopathy as a ‘specifier’ of clinical antisocial personality disorder in the DSM-5, although psychopathy is still not an officially accepted clinical diagnosis. The recognition of psychopathy as a specifier of clinical ASPD by the APA follows nearly fifty years of research and debate.”
Both of the above articles have been invoked by Tina Tayler, author of No Psychos, No Druggies, No Stooges, The Corrupt DSM-5’s Missing Psychopathy Diagnosis in which she offers the audatious opinion that the DSM is corrupt because the people writing it are, themselves, psychopaths. I wouldn’t make such a suggestion myself, and I resisted adding this for years. But somebody has got to shake the boat and get some fresh thought admitted to that elitist body of obfuscation.
People with Cluster B “personality disorders” are often considered evil, incurable and generally bad news. But some of the most interesting people in the world are in that Cluster. You shun the Psychopath and yet are so fascinated, you keep flocking to movies about us. Face it. We lift you up from your mundane lives and provide some excitement. Oh, yes. We are grandiose. Grandiosity is the best drug of all.
I found this amusing poem on a blog called Love Fraud:
Beware the Borderline, my son!
The tongue that bites, the spiteful wrath!
Beware the Narcissist, and shun
The frumious Psychopath!
And as in uffish thought he stood
He soon was driven to conclude
That labels can be just a game:
The Borderline, siren of ill fame
Is oft a Psychopathic dame
Disguised with altered name.
I have known for years that I am psychopathic. I just never felt like talking about it until recently. We know, after all, what most people think of us. But several things happened to change that for me. In the first place, I was finally able to retire. Career can be quite a ball and chain for anyone who doesn’t plan a life of crime. Sure, I’ve broken the law but I never made a career of it. Well, a couple of times but not for long. So I had to keep my public image within a realm the rest of the public (whom I mostly despise) would approve. It really feels good not to have to care about that any more. Another factor was the publication of Confessions of a Sociopath by M.E. Thomas. It encouraged many of us to also disclose. When we did, we found many of our own kind out there. There is strength in numbers. The Internet made it easier to find each other. Of course, many of us are still closeted to some degree. We are still considered Public Enemy Number One by the majority.
- Cluster B Disorders are Not Cool. As a Borderline, herself, Lucky Otter feels that she is in a position to talk.
- Cluster B People Are, Too, Cool. My reply. Not a rebuttal. Just a reply.
- Harsh Reality: Realizing You’re the Abuser.
- Psychiatry goes insane: DSM-5, Mike Adams, Natural News
- There Should Be No Shame in Having a Cluster B Diagnosis. Lucky Otter. The same Lucky Otter who said Cluster B isn’t cool?
- 9 ways to tell if the victim blog you are reading is run by a narcissist. Lucky Otter.
- What is Cluster B. Narcissists, and Sociopaths and Flying Monkeys, Oh My.
- My First Cluster B Experience.
- Child Roles in Dysfunctional Families, by Lucky Otter.
- Cluster B, Histrionic, Narcissistic, Borderline, Anti-Social Personality Disorders.
- Waking You Up: Dr. David R. Holmes
- The Cluster B Stigma and the nature of evil. I look around and notice a lot of people who are a little too comfortable with the label of “victim.” I think considering oneself a victim erases all guilt and fault because it is the other guy who is really “evil.”
- Borderline Personality Disorder.
- Going Insane: How I got diagnosed with BPD, by Lucky Otter
- Borderline Personality traits linked to lowered empathy
- 20 Secrets of People Who Live With Borderline Personality Disorder
- The Spiritual Gift of Borderline Personality Disorder. Cortland Pfeffer & Irwin Ozborne
- Kings and Queens of Chaos. Psychology Today
- Why BPD Can Be Attractive, Sexy, Seductive and Irresistible, by Rick, a man who loves women with BPD the way some women love psychopaths. Of course, Cluster B is where the irresistible people are found.
- The BPD Relationship Blueprint, by Rick
- Borderline Bella. Exploring Borderline Personality Disorder
- Living With Borderline Personality Disorder.
- The Truth Behind Borderline Personality Disorder.
- 17 Things to never say to a girl with Borderline Personality Disorder.
- 5 Things People Don’t Get About Borderline Personalities.
- If Looks Count Kill: Anatomy of a Borderline, by Shari Schreiber, M.A. The longer version of this article is posted at her blog, Life Strategies
- Make BPD Stigma Free
- Borderlines: Incurable Demons or Trauma Victims? Lucky Otter
- Borderline Personality Disorder. Psych Central
- Why Narcissists and Borderlines are Drawn to Each Other
- Are BPD “Drama Queens” Manipulative, Sadistic, and Worse? Psychology Today
Of course, narcissism goes without saying. After all, I am the best. You most likely won’t believe that but I don’t care. That only shows me how deficient you are in insight. I don’t usually say this because it is so true, that it’s offensive and I hide the offensive side of me most of the time. I take lots of selfies and post them because why hide my light under a bushel? Whether this is my “false self” or my mask. It is there to protect both of us.
- Narcissist’s talking about themselves
- Derealization and depersonalization in NPD and BPD,
Sam Vaknin. The man who put “narcissism” on the map as far as psychological understanding. There are many videos by Sam Vaknin but it’s rare to see him lecturing a live audience. This is a most compelling example of his sharing his brilliant mind.
- Shame Makes the Whole World go Around — or Only Codependants and Narcissists by Sam Vaknin
- He is a Narcissist but he Accuses me of Manipulating Him. Am I? by Sam Vaknin
- Healing from Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
- Recovering from NPD.
- no! it’s not your fault!
- Recovering from NPD: My Journey to Self-Awareness. Down the Rabbit Hole
- Falling Down the Rabbit Hole. Healing from NPD
- My name is Lauren, and I’m a recovering covert narcissist. Down the Rabbit Hole.
- Derealization and depersonalization in NPD and BPD,
- 7 Signs of a Covert Introvert Narcissist. Psychology Today
- On the Idea that all Narcissists are Hellbound Demons Another call for reason from the Narc-Hating crowd. She says this post is controversial. It will be for them, I guess.
- Why Empaths and Narcissists seem to need each other. Lucky Otter.
- The Real Reason why my attitude toward narcissism changed. Down the Rabbit Hole
- Do Narcissists Ever Cry? Alexander Burgemeester
- Knowing the Narcissist Narcs seem to be their own worst enemies as this blog tells us that the narc is an evil, sadistic prankster.
- What the Heck is Narcissistic Victim Syndrome. There certainly seem to be lots victims around. Plenty of company, I guess.
- Narcissist Man in Love
- Not every narcissist has NPD
- Narcissists and co-dependents can be a hot item
- 2 thoughts on “The 4 stages a narcissist goes through in therapy.”
- I’m not unloved. A narcissist loves me. Unloved, hated, disrespected? Then love the narcissist inside yourself. Somewhere in the world is love, that place is inside you. Love starts on the inside
- Healing From Narcissistic Personality Disorder. It may not be fleas.
- Narcissist’s talking about themselves
- Histrionic Personality Disorder.
This is one I can relate to. Can a psychopath also be histrionic? Look at Diane Downs. My histrionic traits come to the fore especially when I have a problem on the computer that I can’t fix. I hate having to depend on other people, especially on the phone, especially technical support. They always start with 20 questions. Boring questions. What is my name? How do I spell that? I have spelled my damn name so many times that I HATE it already. What is the serial number of my computer/printer/or whatever? Oh, it’s located way in the back and well hidden. They make me feel stupid for not knowing and having to put down the phone to do whatever they insist I do. They they suggest solutions I have already tried. I try to stay polite but I end up having a shit fit.Another histrionic characteristic is dressing to attract attention. Like wearing provocative t-shirts, such as my Psychopath one. Most people don’t notice or show that they notice but others react. Usually, they tell me they love me. One guy told me he trusted people like me more than “normal” ones. One man thanked me for giving him a laugh. “Are you sure it’s a joke?” He looked startled and he said, “Well thanks for the warning.” I also like to look my best in really great makeup by 100% Pure. No, I’m not getting a kick-back for the plug.
- Histrionic Personality Disorder. Psych Central
- Histrionic Personality Disorder. Stephen Tierney
- Histrionic Personality Disorder. This video has several presentations by people with this “disorder.”
- HPD: The “forgotten” Cluster B disorder. It hasn’t been forgotten by me. This blog has been reposted on Lucky Otter’s Haven. Interestingly, the name “Haley” was given to a girl with HPD in Law & Order: SVU only the character on this show was raped and killed.
- Histrionic Personality Disorder. A young woman, recently diagnosed, explains her experience.
- Histrionic Personality Disorder. Psychology Today
- Stop the “Drama Queen” Cycle. Psychology Today
Psychopath Night was shown on English TV. It’s a generally fine and balanced documentary. They made a few regrettable, what I would call errors. But, for the most part, it is excellent, not only informative but entertaining. One disagreement I have is that Psychopath Night never should have started their countdown with Hitchcock’s Psycho. As they admit, Norman Bates isn’t a psychopath but they say Hitchcock got it wrong. Hello! Hitchcock never said his movie was about a psychopath. It’s about a “psycho,” short for psychotic.
- Wisdom from Psychopaths? – Scientific American, Kevin Dutton
- 6 Scary Realities of Working With Psychopaths. Really about James Fallon, a neuroscientist who discovered he was a psychopath and wrote a book about it.
- Lifting the Veil of Psychopathic Intrusion in Everyday Life. by Nozomi Hayase
- Psychopathy of the Dark Triad, by Ivan Throne
- No Strings on Me. Like Pinocchio without Jiminy Cricket, psychopaths are conscience-free.
- How Facebook Became a Home for Psychopaths. There are a lot of good Facebook groups for psychopaths. Unfortunately, this article doesn’t mention them.
- Signs of a Psychopath. In Love With a Psychopath and other articles.
- Behind the Mask: The Myth of the Psychopath. It was bound to happen sooner or later. A book has been published which questions some of the most cherished opinions about psychopathy. The Myth of the Born Criminal: Psychopathy, Neurobiology, and the Creation of the Modern Degenerate by Jarkko Javala, Stephanie Griffiths, Michael Maraun. The fact that none of these authors appear to have any scientific creds gives pause yet the one reviewer (so far) on Amazon promises the book refutes Martha Stout which is reason enough to try it.
- Suffering Souls, by John Seabrook, The Search for the Roots of Psychopathy. The New Yorker (2008)
- Psychopathy, Adrien Ulrich Osterhues.
- FBI Focus on Psychopathy, GeneticPsychosMom (Tina)
- Psychopathy Linked to Specific Structural Abnormalities in the Brain. Neuroscience News.
- Can You call a 9-Year-Old a Psychopath? by Jennifer Kahn, New York Times Magazine
- When Your Child is a Psychopath. The Atlantic
- The Hidden Suffering of the psychopath, By Willem H. J. Martens, MD, PhD
- Psychopathy as an Evolutionary Asset. Dark Personalities by Joan Swart, Psy.D.
- FBI — Looking Behind the Mask. Implications for Interviewing Psychopaths
- Is God a Psychopath? Kriss
- Female psychopaths frequently underestimated and under counted, by Seth Meyers Psy.D.
- Sociopath’s Domain.
- Psychopathy: A Misunderstood Personality Disorder.
- Psychopathy may not be what you think
- Do Psychopaths Fall in Love?, Claudia Moscovici
- When Psychopaths Fall in Love, Susan Krauss Whitbourne, Ph.D.
- Psychopath Resistance
- Hare and Cleckley
- The Psychopath: A Problem for Society, by Hervey Cleckley, M.D.
- Without Conscience. Robert Hare’s Page for the Study of Psychopaths.
- Adaptive evolution? Psychopathy may be a result of ‘adaptive evolution’ rather than a disorder, says inventor of the psychopath test, Robert Hare.
- Studies in Psychopathy. Psychopath vs. Antisocial Personality Disorder and Sociopathy. Recommended.
- What Psychopaths say About Ourselves.
- Psychopathic Writings by Zhawq
- Sociopathworld by M.E. Thomas
- Perspectiveva. Eva Wachter presents her own writing and that of others here in German.
- The Dying Psychopath. The Random Thoughts of a Psychopath.
- How to spot a psychopath. Not another one of those! By this is by a psychopath, Jacob Wells.
- Do Psychopaths Laugh? by Zhawq
- Psychopathic sense of humour, by James
- A Psychopath’s Take on Morality, by James. An excellent discussion of morality, ethics and psychopathy. Recommended.
- Do Psychopaths Suffer? by James
- Psychopath meet Psychopath, by James
- Stuff Psychopaths Say, by James
- Psychopaths are Awesome/Psychopaths are terrible, by James
- Mythbusting psychopathy (Part I), by James
- Mythbusting psychopathy (Part II), by James
- Your Favourite Character is a Psychopath, by James
- Psychopaths in Song, by James
- How a Psychopath Views You, by James
- Are You My Next Target? by James
- Infiltration by Psychopath, by James
- Phuccessful Psychopaths. A dialogue between James and Tina.
- Conscience? What Conscience? by James
- Meet the Parents of a Psychopath, by James
- Random Musings of a Psychopath, by James
- Is It Safe to Date a Psychopath? by James
- Psychopath Watching You by James
- The Psychopath Translator by James. What we really mean.
- Psychopaths and Charm. Psychogendered, a Transgender Psychopath’s blog
- Psychopathy Awareness by Jay Jones on Facebook
- Psychopaths and Sexuality. Insights from the Mind of a Psychopath.
- Psycho Insight. Jekyll and Hyde Personality
- What is a Psychopath – Part I. PsychoInsight, Jay Jones
- 5 Things We Can Learn From a Sociopath. Sumopocky: Cutest Baking Blog, quotations from M.E. Thomas’ book Confessions of a Sociopath
- I am a Child Psychopath
- Murder Crow Eat Crow. Intelligent social commentary by a sociopath.